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NEW DEVELOPMENT May 27, 2004: Paul Dean states Medical Condition Prevents Him From Playing Spy
Hunter Without Intense BACK and LEG Pain, With June 9th, 2004 SURGERY DATE. Doctors Report Provided Below.
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ON TWIN GALAXIES SCORE BOARD
PAUL DEAN'S 1985 SPY HUNTER HIGH SCORE ACCOMPLISHED ON JUNE 28TH 1985 WAS PULLED
IN 2004 UNTIL WITNESS STATEMENTS COULD BE RE-ESTABLISHED.
-- NEW DEVELOPMENT --
WITNESS OF PAUL DEAN'S HIGH SCORE GAME GIVEN BY
PHIL BRITT- 1985 GUINNESS VIDEO GAME PLAYER OF THE YEAR,
AND WITNESS JEFF PETERS - HOLDER OF THE MOST GUINNESS BOOK RECORDS EVER
RECORDED, IS NOT ENOUGH FOR WALTER DAY TO AMMEND PAUL DEAN'S HIGH SCORE
TO THE RECORD BOOKS IN YEAR 2004.
WITNESS STATMENTS ARE AT BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE:
-- NEW DEVELOPMENT --
A REPLAY MUST BE REDONE AFTER 19 YEARS OF ELAPSED TIME TO PROVE PAUL DEAN'S
HIGH SCORE FROM 1985, DESPITE EXTENSIVE INJURIES PAUL DEAN IS RECOVERING
FROM A FALL WHICH HAS PUT HIM OFF WORK FOR THREE YEARS AND WITH A BACK SURGERY
AND A PIRIFORMIS RELEASE SURGERY AND COUNTLESS CORTIZONE SHOTS TO THE HIS BACK
AND LEG FOR INTENSIVE PAIN.
IS PAUL DEAN A (F R A U D) OR DID HE ACTUALLY PLAY SPY HUNTER FOR 11.5 HOURS AS
HE AND HIS WITNESSES PHIL BRITT AND JEFF PETERS REPORT. DID HE
FAKE A BACK INJURY
TO GET OUT OF A REPLAY AGAINST MARK LITTLE'S SCORE WHO IS CHALLENGING PAUL DEAN'S SCORE IN SPY HUNTER?
noted medical annotation:
PAUL DEAN'S MEDICAL RECORDS TO BE {PROVIDED} TO WALTER DAY AS PROOF OF INJURY
Medic Fax System
DIAGNOSIS
1. Piriformis syndrome.
2. Residual sciatic nerve root irritation, status post lumbar laminectomy/discectomy.
3. Lumber discogenic disease, L5-S1.
DISCUSSION
This patient is here to pursue a recommended course of treatment by Dr. Chambie,
(Neurologist), which is for a piriformis release. The patient is most symptomatic
in this region. He reports that he is eager to seek the suggested treatment in
order to get better. At this point, I do not see that there is anything else to
offer this patient. He appears to be very well informed. As long as the risks and
benefits were discussed by his primary physician the choice to proceed in this
direction should be left up to the patient. I believe he can be helped with the
piriformis release although there are no guarantees. He feels he has no other choice
at this point. He will have to live with his residual symptoms post surgery.
DISABILITY STATUS
This patient will continue on temporary total disability. Good or bad, to be
declared permanent and stationary after sufficiently recovered.
DISCLOSURE STATMENT
I declare under penalty of perjury that I, the signing physician, have actually
performed this examination and the time spent in performing this evaluation is
in compliance with the IMC Guidelines (Section 5307.1 and 4507.6).
I declare under perjury that I have devoted at least 1/3 of my total practice
to providing medical treatment.
Dr. Akmicmajin (Orthopaedic Medicine)
May 21, 2004
[May 20, 2004 - 01:14. Paul Dean's Spy Hunter Record reconfirmed - By Mark Longridge]
Jeff Peters: Witness Statment from Mark Longrdige
http://www.cubeman.org/dru/
Mark Longridge, Twin Galaxies Coin-Op Referee/Canada
E-Mail To pauldean007(at)charter.net From Mark Longridge at: zero1(at)look.ca
JEFF PETERS INTERVIEW (SNAP SHOT) AND FULL STORY FURTHER DOWN DOCUMENT:
Hi Paul,
One of the questions I had about the Spy Hunter score
was how long it took and how many cars you get total.
I was also curious if the machine rolls over at a million.
I also talked to Jeff Peters and he spoke highly of
your Spy Hunter skills.
Jeff Peters now has the most Guinness World Records Ever Recorded
for The Official Video Game & Pinball Book of World Records By Walter Day.
Best regards,
Mark Longridge
zero1
WALTER DAY SAYS ROBERT MRUCZEK RE-INSTATEMENT LETTER WAS PREMATURE
Reinstatement letter from Robert T Mruczek, Chief Referee (Twin Galaxies): May 18, 2004
E-Mail To pauldean007
Hi Paul:
Your score has been re-appended to the database effective immediately.
Walter Day's direct number is (XXX) XXX-XXXX
Walter Day:
(work E-MAIL) Walter twingalaxies.com
Thanks so much for taking the time and effort to work with us for verification,
and for providing information on contacting Phil Britt.
Sorry I could not call you back directly the other day...ask Mark Alpiger, my job
is quite chaotic and I rarely have a free moment to breathe...but I have the free
moment now. Check the database. The score has an entry date of today, but a
submission date of 5.28.85.
Thanks again !!
Robert
Robert T Mruczek
Twin Galaxies - Editor and Chief referee
Star Wars classic arcade champion
rmruczek
(work E-MAIL)
Walter Day - Twin Galaxies
Walter twingalaxies (work E-MAIL)
WALTER DAY SAYS ROBERT MRUCZEK 2004 PUBLISHING RE-INSTATEMENT LETTER WAS PREMATURE
2nd Edition Twin Galaxies Official Video Game & Pinball Book of World Records Intent to Publish Paul Dean's high score:
May 19, 2004
E-Mail To pauldean007
Hi Paul:
I forwarded your previous request to Walter, and am doing so again now.
Your high score has since been restored to the TG database
and of course will be
in the 2nd edition Book.
Regards !!
Robert
Robert T Mruczek
Twin Galaxies - Editor and Chief referee
Star Wars classic arcade champion
TG database
http://www.twingalaxies.com/cgi-perl/search_scores.pl
Twin Galaxies Record Keeper
http://www.twingalaxies.com/
rmruczek
(work E-MAIL)
May 15, 2004
John Philip Britt: Witness Statment
E-Mail To pauldean007
Hey Paul:
Sorry I didn't get a chance to fill in the info you sent me. I have been
out of town quite a bit lately and I am behind in a lot of things.
They called me though a few days ago - Walter and some other guy
(I can't quite remember). We talked at length about your score and
they approved it.
Do they still need the paperwork? I got the impression that the
talk was good enough.
Phil
John Philip Britt (JPB)
1985 Coronation Day Champion
Paperboy classic arcade champion
WALTER DAY SAYS MARK ALPIGERS LEAK TO FUNSPOT OF PAUL DEAN REINSTATEMENT WAS PREMATURE
May 18, 2004 - Mark Alpiger Confirmation of Scoreboard Reinstatment Of High Score
E-Mail To pauldean007
Hi Paul:
I just got Rob's e-mail, and congratulations to you for getting back on the
scoreboard, as was deserved. I'll be getting the full story from him when I see
him at the Funspot contest
(you've GOT to come next year - it's great to meet the
players !), and will advise you on anything new or interesting that he tells me
about the whole process.
Mark
Mark Alpiger (MDA)
Crystal Castle classic arcade champion
www.classicarcadegaming.com
May 21, 2004
[May 20, 2004 - 01:14. Paul Dean's Spy Hunter Record reconfirmed - By Mark Longridge]
Jeff Peters: Witness Statment from Mark Longrdige
http://www.cubeman.org/dru/
Mark Longridge, Twin Galaxies Coin-Op Referee/Canada
E-Mail To pauldean007 From Mark Longridge at: zero1
Hi Paul,
I was quite happy to see your new web site on the golden
age of video games. I had a quick look at your site and
you have a real eye for detail.
One of the questions I had about the Spy Hunter score
was how long it took and how many cars you get total.
I was also curious if the machine rolls over at a million.
I also talked to Jeff Peters and he spoke highly of
your Spy Hunter skills. I even put a small blurb about
it at http://cubeman.org/dru
It would be great to see you in action at Funspot, but
you're probably from the west coast.. that was my
(vague) recollection. I won't be going to this year's
contest but I hope to go next year.
Best regards,
Mark Longridge
zero1
P.S. Hope you don't mind all the questions, I'm
a detail-man what can I say? :)
Mark Longridge
Wizard of Wor Classic arcade champion
Twin Galaxies Referree, Coin-Op, Mame, Canada
E-mail Address(es):
zero1
http://cubeman.org
Response from Paul Dean to Mark Longridge of the previous questions above:
On May 21, 2004 08:19 pm, Paul Dean wrote:
E-Mail From Paul Dean To Mark Longridge at zero1
Dear Mark Longridge,
Thank you for the Congratulations it has been a trial to locate Phil Britt
and to get everyone involved in order to get Paul Dean's high score back on to the
scoreboard where it belongs.
I feel that if the Referee's have a problem with any players score they
shouldn't wait 19 years and then pull the score without telling that player
anything about it. It is very hard to find any content about high scores or
in finding the witnesses after 19 years and it was just by luck that I found
Phil Britt's email while searching for his name on Google. I hadn't talked to him in
15 years and he was the main witness who could report how I played the game
and for how long because he watched the whole thing.
Game Settings and Contest Questions:
Game Settings for 3rd Annual Masters Tournament June 28, 1985 Spy Hunter
High Score - 9,512,590
Huish Family Fun, Upland, CA
I played for a little over 11.5 hours on a sit-down Spy Hunter game in
Upland, CA.
Difficulty = 3, First extra base awarded at 30K, Extra base every 30K
(maximum 3), Starting timer - 1.5 minutes of play (90 seconds).
Technically, based on speed of completing the initial time allotment, it is
possible to get an extra car at 14K and another at 18K if you reach these
thresholds before the starting timer expires.
I live in Riverside, Ca and have always been here at the same residence since
1971,
You can look at [My Biography]for my accomplishments.
See my Biography second page to see what I have been doing lately.
Players who helped me develop my skills:
Player City State Guinness World Record
Phil Britt - Riverside, CA - Paperboy
Mike Sullivan -Riverside, CA - Kung Fu
Mike Querlls -Riverside, CA - Crystal Castle
Dave Dean - Riverside, CA - Mappy
Jeff Peters - Etiwanda, CA - Pole Position
We all played and honed are skills in the same arcades in Riverside, CA
and went to Los Angeles on field trips to show others how to play.
I have never given an interview until this year 2004 after my high score
was pulled and I decided to fight and get it back on the score boards.
Thank you for recording my high score and the high scores of my
friends.
I have had a back surgery and am having a Piriformis Surgery
and have not been doing anything for three years but recovering.
I would like to meet the other Guinness Players at a contest,
but I have not played in years and am unable to play because
of a fall I took at work three years ago.
Three years after I won the Guinness Contest I put video games
in every Little Caesars Pizza chain in Five Counties in Southern
California. 123 locations in all after it was all done.
Thank you for the link, and I will link back to your site as well.
I have talked to Mark Alpiger over the phone many times and
he can let you know the trials I went through in order to get my
score back up.
Also you can look at the threads on my site at questions and answers,
biography, and twin galaxies in order to learn more about my score
and my fight to get back on the board.
Just think, anybody at any time can lose their place on the high
score board just because a referee thinks that score is to high.
I appreciate you hard work,
Thank you kindly,
Paul Dean, Spy Hunter Champion 3rd Annual Masters Tournament 1985 (PMD)
Published:
American Edition Guinness Book of World Records 1986
Twin Galaxies Official Video Game & Pinball Book of World Records 1997
PS I hope the answers help you and I am glad that people still remember
the golden age.
Thanks!
Paul Dean (PMD)
Spy Hunter arcade champion
1986 Guinness Book
1997 Twin Galaxies World Records
E-mail Address(es):
pauldean007
http://www.spyhunter007.com
E-Mail To pauldean007 From Mark Longridge at: zero1
On May 21, 2004 10:19 pm, Mark Longridge wrote:
Hi Paul,
If Guinness had continued to publish video game contests
I don't think this would have happened. My belated suggestion
to Jeff Peters was that Twin Galaxies hold separate
contests instead of concurrent ones, and work from the
east coast to the west coast with each contest occurring
on a different weekend. That way TG officials
could
always be present.
Usually at a game or sports tournament everything is
witnessed by spectators and judges. I think video games
are rather in a class by themselves. You indicated that
your game took 11.5 hours and it is a little demanding
for a judge to stand there and eyeball the entire game.
I can tell you for sure that usually an entire game of
that length is not witnessed all the way through in
modern tournaments.
I can certainly sympathize with the players when a
score is pulled. Surely the player has already proven
themselves within the rules and scope of the contest,
in this case from the year 1985.
I did some calling around and I talked to a guy who
has witnessed scores of over 2 million points and
he said that all 7 digits were on the screen. So clearly
there have been other scores over 2 million, at least
on factory default.
I _think_ those settings mean a maximum of 6 cars
and your game is over on the 7th crash. Please
correct me if I'm wrong.
My own thoughts on this (before you were heard from)
was I couldn't really say the score happened, and I couldn't
really say the score _didn't happen. I had no information
to make a decision on it. But in any case having a
witness like Phil Britt pretty much seals the deal.
There were some issues with rom revisions on
Marble Madness in that it was possible one
contest location had a prototype rom and
the other locations had a later more difficult
rom. It never sat well with me that contestants
were playing in different locations on different
machines. But given the large number of games
I'm at a loss on suggesting a better arrangement.
Let me just say that your comments are exactly
what I would have expected from a champion
player and I hope you fully recover from your
injuries. I'm positive that in 1985 there was a
white cerlox binder with the rules, please let me
know if you ever come across it. I believe the
blue book was for 1986, 1987. Oh and when I
talked to Jeff Peters he also stated his confidence
in your score.
In closing let me just say that I think the major
problem with score challenges and doubt all
stems from the fact that their were many contest
locations back in 1985 that had no TG people
present. The main problem would be verifying that
the games were set to the proper settings. From
what I know, I don't believe that this was/is a
problem with Spy Hunter, but it was a problem for
some of the other games. Also I don't see how
it's possible to be sure that all machines were
using the exact same rom versions. I don't blame
the players but I do wish TG had held a championship
in a central location like Chicago so that all the
record attempts were on the same machines, but
maybe this idea isn't practical. Oh, and I also think
that games which roll over that they should be taped
and the roll-overs and times should be logged :)
Best regards,
Mark Longridge
Mark Longridge
Wizard of Wor Classic arcade champion
Twin Galaxies Referee, Coin-Op, Mame, Canada
E-mail Address(es):
zero1
http://cubeman.org
I held out for a long time because I beleieved that players should be trying to beat
the older claims instead of throwing them out in order to bring the world title down
to the level of their then current attainment.
Fortunately, however, as a result of the great work of todays players, we dont have to
think much more about older records because they are being displaced quite rapidly.
Walter Day
Mark Alpiger
Friday, May 21, 2004 - 08:14 pm (Fun Spot General Chat Room)
Hello Walter (and, everyone):
I think the timing of how this information unfolded meant that some people were out
of the loop, or assuming things that weren't the case. Here's the timeline: I
received a carbon copy of an e-mail to Paul Dean, from Rob Mruczek, around 6PM ET
on 05-18; it said, in part: "Your score has been re-appended to the database effective
immediately. Thanks so much for taking the time and effort to work with us for
verification, and for providing information on contacting Phil Britt."
Now, of course, I was sure that the score had been approved in full, since it was
now posted (which I confirmed) to the database !! I wrote Rob back within an hour
or so, and thanked him for the update, and for working with Paul on "the successful status"
of the score situation, and then posted the story to my web site's news page. After
that, I waited more than 24 hours later before posting the news to this forum.
If Rob had indicated in any way that it was still not firm, or that notification of
Mark Little was desired before making this public, I would have been glad to wait, of
course. As I said, I think there was a bit of misunderstanding going on, as far as the
status of the score, and I'm not saying either Rob or Walter is at fault (usually no one
really is, in a misunderstanding situation !).
As Mark B. alluded, I am indeed passionate (though always respectful in listening to
other's views !) on the area of doubting scores. As a matter of fact, due to some very
recent research, I'll be glad to publicly state right here in the forums that a score I
doubted in the past is apparently quite plausible, given some new research on my part.
I'm speaking of the infamous Stan Szczepanski score of 187,880 on Marble Madness.
I doubted it when I first heard of it; Phil Britt and company (his fellow gaming group)
doubted it; and a letter sent to me by Stan himself contained a couple of implausible
statements that made me further question the validity of the game. BUT, due to recently
seeing some play on MARP, and knowing a couple of shortcuts that only a handful of
players know, Stan's score
is not only quite doable, but I now believe that a 190K+ score is plausible
(though quite difficult). So... I was wrong to doubt the score, and I'll own up to that.
For just that reason, I've always said to be careful about doubting scores (I needed to
listen to myself a bit more when it came to Stan's score, I'll admit it !), but to
especially be doubly careful about wanting to pull them off the scoreboard. Needless
to say, I was quite excited to see that just what I spoke against so much in the past
had been reasonably shown to be the case, with Spy Hunter - a doubted, pulled-down score
was later confirmed enough to be considered legit, and replaced. So, of course, I
considered (and still do !) this to be huge news, and wanted everyone to know (and, NOT
for the purpose of razzing TG - just the opposite; I respect them even more than before,
and told Rob so !).
Well, this has gone on long enough, but, I didn't want anyone thinking I would ever
release privileged, or speculative, information, which I never would, and I also never
rush anything out before thoroughly checking it (such as the date correction in my
'Life Magazine' gathering story). Thanks to everyone for their input so far on the
'pulled scores' issue, and I think that such dialog will ultimately help determine the
most fair way to deal with the scores that were taken off.
- Mark Alpiger / MDA
Robert T Mruczek At: rmruczek
Friday, May 21, 2004 - 08:49 pm (Fun Spot General Chat Room)
Hello fellow gamers:
This is strictly an FYI.
Based on current events, and after much consideration, I will personally no longer
be divulging any information on scores past, present or future except by TG site
breaking news announcementsof verified incoming scores from submission or contest.
This is my own personal decision.
Robert T Mruczek
Cameron Feltner
Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 05:57 am (Fun Spot General Chat Room)
It looks like there was some confusion here as to the status of the decision on
reinstating the score. Other than that, I didn't see anything "wrong" with the
information "leak".
I don't see how it would be a problem to allow information on pending decisions
to be known. At least that way less people would be out of the loop, and the final
decision wouldn't seem to come suddenly.
As to the whole issue of figuring out which 80's scores are legit and which aren't,
it's tough. I think most of the problems are probably from difficulty settings
rather than outright false scores. Although there were obviously a lot of those
as well. Also, even when a score has been shown to be possible, it doesn't mean
every score lower than that one was true.
Really the games needed to have been made to track scores themselves. If they were
made more like the lottery machines we'd all be pretty sure of the scoreboard.
Players would have a little slip of paper with all the game information on it and
some other coded information that could be checked when they claimed a score. Plus,
we'd know about all the unclaimed scores as well. You could even scan your score
ticket in at the arcade, and it would tell you what rank in the world it was as of
a half-hour ago as well as when the score was achieved.
Cameron Feltner
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TWIN GALAXIES RULES
8.6 Steps to Challenge
1. Send your challenge in writing. Explain the reasons why you believe
this player should prove their score via a public replay.
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2. A player’s score can be challenged only once. If, during a replay, the
challenged player gets 90% of their claimed score, they are awarded the
score – unless the game in question is a “mature” game.
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THE SPY HUNTER HIGH SCORE FROM 1985 IS A "Mature" game score, almost two
decades old therefore, WALTER DAY'S/MARK LITTLE CHALLENGE ILLEGAL.
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